Chapter 15 (post 5)

In chapter fifteen the Giver asks Jonas to forgive him because, he had given him the memory of war. One day when Jonas entered the Annex room he realized that he was going to be sent away again, so he told the giver he would go unless there was something he could do for him. The Giver asked Jonas to take some of the pain, so Jonas did. It was very loud and foul-smelling. All around were men lying on the ground groaning with pain. Jonas then laid his eyes on a boy who was begging him for water, but then realized he himself was injured with one of his arms immobilized with pain as the ragged flesh hung by the splintered bone. Jonas gave the boy some water once he got his container open and then the boy’s head fell back and he was silent and he laid still. Jonas just laid there overwhelmed by all the pain and listening to his surroundings of men and animals dieing and cannons and guns going off. Close to death himself Jonas opened his eyes and was still on the bed, when the Giver asked Jonas to forgive him. Some proof from the book is, “The Giver looked up at him, his face contorted with suffering. ‘Please,’ he gasped, ‘take some of the pain.’” and “The boy stared at him. ‘Water,’ he begged again. When he spoke, a new spurt of blood drenched the coarse cloth across his chest and sleeve. One of Jonas’s arms was immobilized with pain, and he could see through his own torn sleeve something that looked like ragged flesh and splintery bone.” Some more proof is, “Finally, when he knew that he could bear it no longer and would welcome death himself, he opened his eyes and was once again on the bed. The Giver looked away, as if he could not bear to see what he had done to Jonas. ‘Forgive me,’ he said.”

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Why does the Giver ask Jonas to forgive him?

” Please” he gasped, take some of the pain. The giver was suffering in pain of the memory of warfare and when he gave the memory to Jonas. “…the half-closed eyes of a boy who seemed not much older than himself. Dirt streaked the boy’s face and his matted blond hair. He lay sprawled, his gray uniform glistening with wet, fresh blood. The colors of the carnage were grotesquely bright: the crimson wetness on the rough and dusty fabric, the ripped shred of grass, startlingly green, in the boy’s yellow hair.” Chapter 15, pg. 119.  I believe he thought it wasn’t time yet to give him the memory of such offal thing. “The Giver looked away, as if he could not bear to see what he had done to Jonas. “Forgive me,” he said.” It explains in the next chapter that he took it easy for the next couple of weeks giving him happy memories.

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Why would people relinquish ( give up) the ability to see colour? How would this improve life in the community? Would this solve any problems in our society?

I believe that when they decided to give up the choice to see colour because if everyone is the same and if people are a different colour it could create the racism problem. Also in cloths, especially in younger children. For example if a boy is wearing pink and gets made fun of it could lead to bigger physiological problems later on. It would take away bulling and racism witch are big issues that a lot of people suffer from today. Yes I do think it would take away a lot of negativity but then again would take away the beautiful expression of art and individuality. “Our people made that choice, the choice to go to Sameness. Before my time, before the previous time, back and back and back. We relinquished color when we relinquished sunshine and did away with difference. We gained control of many things. But we had to let go of others.” Chapter 12, pg. 95

CHAPTER 18 post 7 Darsot.

     CHAPTER 18  How and why would the community suffer if Jonas left? Giver specific examples.

               The community would suffer because if Jonas leaves, then all his memories of the outside world and would be past on to the community which could cause hysteria ( fear or panic). In the book on page (145) it tells you there wouldn`t be a new Receiver , and the community wouldn`t know what to do. In the book Rosemary got lost and all of the memories came back to the community, and the community was overwhelmed. “if they lost Jonas,with all the training you`ve had now, they`d have all of those memories against themselves” (community).

chapter 15 the giver post 6 Fahim

              chapter 15. Why did the Giver ask Jonas to forgive him?

      The giver ask`s him to forgive him because he told him about  a horrible scene of war where men, that are little older than he is are lying injured, dying, and thirsty.

Chapter 18 Touseef #6

The community would suffer if Jonas left because all the memories would go back to the community. The community has chosen a receiver for a reason. To hold the memories. That gives them knowledge and wisdom they can use to know what to do when they come to a situation they haven’t been at before. Jonas holds plenty of memories. Pains and joys. Like Jonas when he received the memories it didn’t make much sense to him. The Giver helped him out and eased his pain. If the whole community gets the memories back they’ll all be in pain. They wouldn’t know what to do. Also,  since the Giver gave most of the memories to Jonas he wouldn’t be able to help them out much. The community never experienced warfare so when they get the memory back they’ll be so overwhelmed by it and become depressed. They’re not going to get help like Jonas did from the Giver. Eventually the whole community will learn how to cope with the memories.

Chapter 14 Touseef #5

There isn’t pain in Jonas’s community because they had chosen not to experience it. They chose to eliminate all the pain in life but with eliminating pain they had to eliminate the joys. There would be no pain of warfare, hunger,  and death but their won’t also be the joys of love. I think this is not a good idea. No pain is a great thing, but it’s not worth giving up all the joys in our life. The community is too scared. The pain overwhelms the joy so they decide not to have any. This is a bad idea because I think to enjoy something you have to risk something. For example the time when Jonas received the memory of the holiday. The joy was the unwrapping of the presents. Enjoying the evening with your family. The pain was only the risk of fire by the candles. The community gives up the specific holiday just because the risk of fire seems like a bad idea.

Chapter 9 (post 3)

Jonas is very concerned about some of the new rules he got for his assignment of receiver. He was first scared about the thought of being exempted from rudeness, but then he realized that he didn’t have to be rude, he just had the choice to be. Two quotes to back this up are, “The exemption from rudeness startled him.” and Reading it again, however, he realized that it didn’t compel him to be rude; it simply allowed him the option.” Then he wasn’t that worried about dream telling, because he doesn’t usually dream, but then he wondered, what if he did dream. Would he just say he didn’t that night? That final rule of being able to lie is what made him uneasy. A couple sentences from a paragraph to back this up are, “What if he did dream – should he simply tell his family unit, as he did so often, anyway, that he hadn’t? That would be a lie. Still, the final rule said … well he wasn’t quite ready to think about the final rule on the page.” Also, he could not think about being restricted of medication. What if he crushed his finger again? Again, after rereading the rules he realized that it was only pain related to his training he was not allowed. That still made him worried though, because he remembered the Chief Elder telling him about the great amount of pain he would go through. Some quotes to back up this up are, “The restriction of medication unnerved him.”, “Re-reading rule number 6, he realized that a crushed finger fell into the category of ‘unrelated to training.’”, and “But he remembered uneasily what the Chief Elder had said about the pain that would come with his training. She had called it indescribable.” The seventh rule didn’t bother him at all, because he never even thought about applying for release. A quote to prove this is, “It had never occurred to him that under any circumstances, ever, he might apply for release.” Last but not least, he looked at his final rule on his list and thought maybe everyone was told that they were allowed to lie. Finally quotes to back this up are, “Finally he steeled himself to read the final rule again.” and “What if others – adults – had, upon becoming Twelves, received in their instructions the same terrifying sentence.”

Chapter 12 Touseef #4

People would relinquish the ability to see colour because they made a decision long, long time ago to go with sameness. Which means people could see no colour. An apple that’s red would remain black and white to them. This would improve life in the community by eliminating racism. There wouldn’t be problems of certain race of people making fun of the other kind. There won’t be groups of people that only hang around with their colour. Since everyone is the same colour, everyone will be one big group. This method would solve the major problems in our society, but it’ll make us lose diversity and individuality. Like Jonas said one time, he wished there would be colour so he could wake up in the morning and decide which colour tunic to wear. Life would be very bland and you wouldn’t be able to express yourself. When your sad or depressed you would feel like wearing dark clothes. On the other hand when your happy you would wear bright clothes. Personally I think colours should be brought back to the community. It would make life much more interesting.

Chapter 6 (post 2)

          In pages 48 and 49 in “The Giver” there are more hints about what release means. From these hints I think that release means to be sent to a new community or be sent “elsewhere”. I think that it means to go to another community because that is what Asher said to Jonas and he told the story of a person who applied for release one day and was gone the next. The person was never seen again. A quote from the story to justify my arguement is, “If you don’t fit in, you can apply for Elsewhere and be released. My mother says that once, about ten years ago, someone applied and was gone the next day.”